{"id":1038,"date":"2014-12-29T11:00:43","date_gmt":"2014-12-29T17:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stgwww.capella.edu\/blogs\/cublog\/?p=1038"},"modified":"2016-01-28T14:28:12","modified_gmt":"2016-01-28T20:28:12","slug":"changing-careers-from-sales-to-industrial-organizational-psychology","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stgwww.capella.edu\/blogs\/cublog\/changing-careers-from-sales-to-industrial-organizational-psychology\/","title":{"rendered":"How I Changed Careers: From Sales to Psychology"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Todd Hale is in the midst of a career and industry switch from sales to psychology. How did this husband and father of four navigate his way to Capella University as a student in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.capella.edu\/online-degrees\/phd-industrial-organizational-psychology\/\">PhD in Industrial\/Organizational Psychology<\/a> program?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. Share a little bit about your career path to date.<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. I\u2019ve always been a fairly outgoing and extroverted person. I like meeting new people, and I\u2019m not shy in groups, so that made me a pretty natural fit for sales. I graduated from high school in 1987, and I had the intent of going to college right away. But I dropped out after meeting a girl\u2014we got married and started a family. To support my family, I jumped into the workforce\u2014first in retail and then in business-to-business sales of everything from office equipment to petrochemicals.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1043\"  class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/stgwww.capella.edu\/blogs\/cublog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2014\/12\/todd-hale.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1043 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/stgwww.capella.edu\/blogs\/cublog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2014\/12\/todd-hale.jpg\" alt=\"Todd Hale\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stgwww.capella.edu\/blogs\/cublog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2014\/12\/todd-hale.jpg 200w, https:\/\/stgwww.capella.edu\/blogs\/cublog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2014\/12\/todd-hale-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 639px) 98vw, (max-width: 1199px) 64vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Todd Hale is earning his PhD in Industrial\/Organizational Psychology from Capella University.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. What about your career made you think it was time to make a change?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. Frankly, I had done some soul searching and thought I had more to offer the world and myself. Also, when my wife and I were talking to my middle school-age kids about the importance of higher education, I started feeling hypocritical telling them college was important when I never graduated myself.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. What was your main concern about about making the switch?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. There was certainly fear. Fear of failure. I had a lot of internal conversations: <em>What if I decide to make this investment and I don\u2019t finish? What kind of message would that send to my kids?<\/em> <em>Can I continue working and get a degree at the same time?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I started exploring nontraditional and distance education programs, and I asked myself: <em>What degree program, what university, what accreditations, and how long will it take? Will my family get behind this?<\/em> <em>How are we going to pay for it?<\/em> It took me about 6 months to put it together. I was determined, yet cautious and analytical. Now I only have two classes left, so failure is not an option!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. How did you decide on psychology as your new field of study?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. I analyzed my strengths and which parts of my career I liked. I was good at picking up on clients\u2019 non-verbal cues and behaviors, which was helpful in sales. In psychology, we call that reading micro-expressions. It\u2019s like poker players reading the \u201ctells\u201d of the other players at the table. I was curious about many aspects of human behavior: <em>Why do people say one thing and behave differently? Why do so many people exhibit signs of cognitive dissonance? Why do some workers seem so engaged and hardworking, while others seem to waste time on Facebook?<\/em> I wanted to research and understand these questions, and get paid to think about how people think. Psychology was a natural fit.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. What drew you to Capella?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. I had five reasons for going with Capella:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>They had the accreditation I was looking for.<\/li>\n<li>Their social science program has a great reputation among nontraditional universities.<\/li>\n<li>They practice the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apa.org\/gradpsych\/2006\/01\/fits.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">scholar-practitioner model<\/a> that the American Psychological Association (APA) recommends.<\/li>\n<li>I met some Capella graduates who enjoyed the experience.<\/li>\n<li>Capella has a really great <a href=\"http:\/\/www.capella.edu\/about\/career-planning\/\">career center<\/a> that helps with career transition plans.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. How do you stay motivated?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. It\u2019s definitely not easy. But I look at my wife and kids and realize I want to model lifelong learning. I want to feel like I have done the best job I can do to set a good example for them.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">And, I like thinking. I like using my brain. I have become a lifelong learner and that motivates me.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. Are you working as you take classes? How is that going?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. I work full time at St. David\u2019s here in Austin, Texas, where I am responsible for inpatient and outpatient research programs.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">There are clear benefits I\u2019m experiencing even though I haven\u2019t graduated from the PhD program yet. I have already gained the skill set needed to do this job. My supervisor is a doctor who allows me to spend time at work on my dissertation because I can apply what I learn to my job here. As of now, the working title of my dissertation is &#8220;Personality Congruence Between Supervisors and Employees and Its Effect on Employee Engagement.\u201d In essence, I&#8217;m trying to create a research protocol to scientifically study the phenomenon of personality clash in the workplace.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. What are the good things that have come as a result of your career change?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. I am experiencing a synergy that has resulted in a dramatic increase in happiness with my work-life-school balance. I am doing what I like to do, getting paid for it, even doing my schoolwork at work. That is literally a win-win-win scenario.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">From a financial standpoint, I am making as much as I was making in sales. But the intrinsic motivation I have at my job, and the ability to spend more time with my family? I can\u2019t put a dollar figure on those things.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. Is there anything you\u2019d do differently?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. I wish I had started sooner! I would be much further down my career trajectory. Overcoming the fear of failure is important. Fear keeps so many people from what they enjoy.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. What words of wisdom would you share with others who are considering a career change?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. Like the much wiser and wealthier Jim Koch of Sam Adams said, \u201cIf you love what you do, you will never have to work a day in your life<em>.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I\u2019m walking proof that you <em>can <\/em>teach an old dog new tricks. Never stop learning. Spend some time planning out your return to school and set up your support system. Work through the work-life-school equation. Consider the school and program accreditation, ensure the program meets the expectations of the industry, and choose the degree program that lines up with what you want to do for a paycheck!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. What\u2019s your career path look like once you graduate?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. When I complete my degree, I don\u2019t have any immediate plans to leave St. David\u2019s. I really enjoy my job as the clinical research coordinator and I love the fact that this job does involve the application of my psychology background.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">But additionally, I would like to move into teaching (on a part-time basis) at the collegiate level in industrial\/organizational psychology, research methodology, or statistics. In addition, I plan on opening up my own practice as a consultant to work with companies that are looking for ways to use the principles of industrial\/organizational psychology to do things like increase profitability through increased employee retention, decreasing turnover, increased employee engagement, decreasing deviant worker behavior (loafing, wasting time, surfing the net, reading their Facebook page, etc.), and other aspects of the application of psychology in the workplace.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Q. Any last thoughts?<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">A. I just thank God and my family. I wouldn\u2019t be at this point without either. I have so much love and respect for my wife, who has made sacrifices of time while I was writing papers until 2 a.m.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">And you can find me on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/richardtoddhale\" target=\"_blank\">LinkedIn<\/a>!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Considering a career change but scared to take the plunge? 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